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now you're electrifying hosts of

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exploring the bazaar

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timothy beckley and tim schwartz what

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what kind of place is this where have

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you taken me now

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it's so weird and creepy and

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and there's just uh strange looking

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aliens all over the place

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oh tim don't be such a stick in the

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galactic

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quicksand this place is cool and not

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everybody has two heads and four

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arms i mean take a look at that cute

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blonde over there she's probably from

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earth

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let me go talk to her i bet she doesn't

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have any friends here

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she seems to be by herself uh okay

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i would watch it if i was you some of

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these aliens look pretty mean

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uh it's okay it's okay hi there

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sweetness

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i see you're hovering over the bar and i

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thought we might get to know each other

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a little better

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can i get you a lava drink the blue

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eyeball one looks really good i mean i

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hear it's tasty

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sir i'm not alone and my boyfriend isn't

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going to like you coming on to me

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jesus i never seen anything like this

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okay tim i think we should get on the

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next saucer out of here and uh

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make it back to the kcr studios in vegas

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you've had enough close encounters for

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hey i was just trying to have a good

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time you know i like blondes and besides

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on planet earth all the bars are closed

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i thought we'd go up up here and have a

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good time but i guess i was wrong that

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that grizzly little mean bad smelling

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you're right let's get back into the

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i don't care for those after-hour bars

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i was having a good time i didn't get a

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chance to get the

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ladies phone number for that damn alien

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that came after me

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i can't believe she'd be going out with

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him i mean when you could have a mr ufo

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uh anyway i guess it's a a warm night in

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jasper indiana isn't it

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yes it's a a warm and uh

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and rainy night but that's all right

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well i'm expecting a good show tonight

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so why don't you forge ahead and

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listeners to our guest for the evening

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sure it'll be my

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special guest yeah yeah it would be my

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pleasure tim well

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uh tonight uh this is uh

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our our guest first time on exploring

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the bazaar and we're really happy that

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uh she's with us

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and her name is uh angelia scheer now

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angelia says that uh at the age of 13

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life-changing paranormal event which

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and that single experience so changed

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about the validity of any paranormal

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real now shearer has been investigating

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the ufo mystery for 35 plus years

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she founded parachute research her

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private research group and is also

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the current state director chief field

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and star team lead for mufon of

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so over the years angelia and her team

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thousands of witnesses and have been

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over the years now anjali is also a

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certified

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master hypnotherapist and uses her

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training to aid experiencers

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encounters sona angelia as well as

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mufon and paris parish sheer research

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is dedicated to providing witnesses with

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a safe place of inquiry

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and to the continued study documentation

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current credible cases of interest so if

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you've had an encounter

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she would like to hear from you now

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angela's book

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is ufo encounters how high strange

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events transform human perception she's

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also working on

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new projects with cmt host katie cook

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and still investigates ufo sightings all

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the south east so angelia welcome to

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exploring the bazaar

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hey guys it's great to be on the show

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tonight i really appreciate you asking

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me on

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well we've been looking we've been

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looking forward to this and i know we

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have a lot to

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uh uh uncover now you're also known uh

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your your monocle is uh

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ufo girl in fact i understand that

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license plate as well how did you pick

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up that uh that name

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well guys um if you get to know me and

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i'm sure you will

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as you said we have a lot to talk about

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once i start talking about my ufo

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research can't get me to stop but

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i truly have been obsessed about

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ufo phenomena the possibility of

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extraterrestrial life since i was just a

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watch star trek that's going to date me

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the original star trek and she'd come

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i'm supposed to be out there you know

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doing this thing so for whatever reason

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everything to me and um really i've just

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we have really had some incredible cases

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um personally so um i look forward to

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share whatever you guys like to talk

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about things out of my book or

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cases well you know uh uh

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uh uh wars they're dating you

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uh more but uh yeah and we didn't have

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somewhat of a tin can but

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uh an unusual uh experience at a rather

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that well it you know it wasn't a ufo

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traumas when you were younger but

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talk about and something truly

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there was you know i had this feeling

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pray tim and tim i read i probably read

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became vanderbilt and so he

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documents from the government so

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just never have looked back

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and it's just been a great ride um all

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fascination with the subject uh

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into investigating uh other people's

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histories you know i've always had since

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i've always said they were dreams i'm

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not going to say they're anything else

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because i didn't feel that way but you

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you know i would dream constantly about

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aliens and ships and

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you know it wasn't i thought everyone

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so i don't know for whatever reason i

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think that's where ufo girl came from um

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i was you know i feel like god created

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me for this um

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and again i went straight into research

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after that i had sightings of my own

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and years later we can talk about that

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you know just working with my witnesses

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um we've had my team have had some close

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not only with entities but with ships so

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in which i researched you know so

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26 i had a case of about 14 people on a

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beach

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it's 10 30 at night they were having a

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beach party and at one point

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they were all within 15 to 25 feet of

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each other so the sighting wasn't a

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relational

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issue or a problem meaning a

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perspectival problem

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but at one point four of the individuals

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started seeing this ufo out of the

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over the water it was probably about two

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and a half to three football fields

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and where was and where was this this

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was down in the gulf

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and um the ship was probably two or

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three hundred feet up and no matter

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what these four people did the other 10

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people could not see this ship

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and they they were questioned yep they

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were just you know

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they were credible and i was convinced

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you know at that point even after

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talking to a lot of my colleagues

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that you know this wasn't it wasn't drug

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induced it wasn't alcohol induced even

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if they were drug

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or alcohol people don't have the same

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hallucinations i mean you know that yes

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isn't that true i don't i don't believe

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i've ever found uh come across at drunk

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who have seen a ufo nor uh uh pink

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elephants for that

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matter you really have to be uh and

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believe me i've been out there on the

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street

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uh literally for uh many times and i've

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never

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seen anything unusual under those

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circumstances i did have one

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incident where i don't remember my

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apparently

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being in an altered state and telling

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people who was inside these crafts that

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were coming overhead

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in pine bush i don't remember but

329
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somebody told me that's

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what was happening but anyway this is

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your night so uh go ahead

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yeah well that's gonna tie into that so

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at that point i was

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truly convinced that my my theory began

335
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that these people

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actually could perceive a greater degree

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of the electromagnetic spectrum than

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those other individuals and my research

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has held

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so from that point on when i was young

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and poor and didn't have a lot of great

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equipment that i have now i had a steady

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stream of witnesses

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to study not only the witnesses and

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their case but the witness

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themselves and my research has just held

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after that meaning you know that some

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people had these different perceptual

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abilities

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and it was interesting they fell into

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two categories either

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the witnesses were born with these

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abilities very sensitive always having

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you know these kind of

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events happen to them from a young age

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or

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a person was just going along in their

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life normal and they had

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in my case a close range ufo sighting

360
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some kind of

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high strange event and from then on out

362
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it was like their neural anatomy was

363
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rewritten

364
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and it was they couldn't turn these

365
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channels off after that

366
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so my research has just held through

367
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38 years and i've just been fortunate

368
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enough to work with some

369
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really really incredible cases uh across

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the spectrum and so tim

371
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what i think is you know missing a

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little bit from ufo research we have to

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have our

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scientific research you know we use we

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throw everything at it

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but you cannot leave out the human

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component

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you know you are 100 you are 100

379
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correct in fact i have always said i i

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do not

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have any scientific uh background

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uh i um approach this as a

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an individual who is like the historian

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in the

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uh field i mean i i know stuff that

386
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happened going back to 1952

387
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i had my first sighting like when i was

388
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uh 10 years old in 1957

389
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uh but it is uh i've approached this as

390
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a uh

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as a journalist uh and presented all

392
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sides of the

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spectrum as far as this uh goes uh

394
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allowing people to tell their story and

395
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then

396
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it's up to the individual the researcher

397
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or investigator to decide whether it's a

398
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relevant uh or not now you say that

399
00:14:53,189 --> 00:14:51,519
some of these individuals who had these

400
00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:53,199
sightings and experiences

401
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uh it are you saying in effect that it

402
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expanded their consciousness

403
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absolutely so many that that could and

404
00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:01,040
i'm going to

405
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make some qualifications here you know

406
00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:04,800
people

407
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my real witnesses did not want this to

408
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be true you know

409
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most of them you know they had very

410
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traumatic experiences there's other

411
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witnesses

412
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you know that just have long-range

413
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sightings and you know there were some

414
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different components but the people that

415
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were having

416
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true true intrusions into their life

417
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into the reality

418
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you know most of these people were

419
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terrified you know i've never

420
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abandoned one of them and most of them

421
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that could work through the fear work

422
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through the experience they

423
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they really uh achieved or experienced

424
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incredible transformative events

425
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uh higher cognition um you know

426
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intelligence um i mean across the

427
00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:43,279
spectrum higher sensitivities that kind

428
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of thing

429
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uh it was pretty blatant you know across

430
00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:47,360
the research

431
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so um i think how could you not be

432
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fascinated with that you know my

433
00:15:54,069 --> 00:15:53,040
researchers and i've been out in the

434
00:15:56,069 --> 00:15:54,079
field for 38

435
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years you know we've all started to come

436
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to the same conclusions to some degree

437
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because the truth is the truth if you

438
00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:00,639
know what i mean

439
00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:02,480
i mean we all might say different words

440
00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:04,880
about it but one of the most exciting

441
00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:06,160
parts of this research

442
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:08,880
is about human potential um it's almost

443
00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:09,519
like there's

444
00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:11,440
you know something out there you know

445
00:16:14,069 --> 00:16:13,519
beckoning us into other worlds to some

446
00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:14,079
degree

447
00:16:18,150 --> 00:16:16,160
and you know there's a lot of us on the

448
00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:18,160
edge you know taking those steps so

449
00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:19,680
you know my researchers and i that have

450
00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:22,079
been out in the field you know we say we

451
00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:24,079
know this is true we don't you know my

452
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:25,279
book i put in there

453
00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:27,040
you know i said you know this is this

454
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:28,720
book is not about proof

455
00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:31,120
um you know it's about the genuine

456
00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,959
stories of credible people

457
00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:34,800
and i said you know sometimes you can

458
00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:36,800
you know strive to have proof

459
00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:38,880
but sometimes if you strive after that

460
00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:40,959
you never have understanding

461
00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:43,440
so um you know we say our judicial

462
00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:45,360
system is based on credible witness

463
00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:46,560
testimony

464
00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:47,920
and i always thought it was rather

465
00:16:51,509 --> 00:16:49,920
strange that when those same types of

466
00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:51,519
credible people report

467
00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:53,759
extraordinary ufo sightings or high

468
00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:54,959
strange events

469
00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:56,720
you know in years past they've been so

470
00:17:00,389 --> 00:16:58,160
criticized and

471
00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:00,399
i just won't tolerate that you know for

472
00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:02,079
my witnesses because a lot of them

473
00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:04,480
have really gone through um some

474
00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:06,079
experiences you know i'm friends with

475
00:17:10,150 --> 00:17:07,360
travis walton we

476
00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:10,160
we talk often and you know you if you

477
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,919
sit with travis you know something

478
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:13,760
happened to him one of my best friends

479
00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:16,240
is deb jordan who was the subject of bud

480
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:18,000
hopkins book intruders

481
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:20,079
you know we talk about this often you

482
00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:22,160
know the the trauma and the fear that

483
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:24,640
that people actually go through uh in

484
00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:26,799
some of these cases

485
00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:30,000
well now okay two quick uh questions

486
00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:33,200
uh back to back here uh would you say

487
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:36,799
that uh most of these uh

488
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uh events are positive or negative

489
00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,960
and the second question being do you

490
00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:43,840
have any

491
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case uh that you've investigated where

492
00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:47,360
there is what you would call

493
00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:51,039
physical evidence involved absolutely

494
00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:52,799
you know the first question of course is

495
00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:54,400
extraordinarily hard that's

496
00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:56,400
that's like actually saying are humans

497
00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:57,600
good or bad

498
00:18:01,909 --> 00:17:59,600
you know i tell people we probably live

499
00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:01,919
in a you know almost limitless universe

500
00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:02,720
so we're gonna

501
00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:05,840
probably eventually encounter you know

502
00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:07,600
just you know i tell people think about

503
00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:09,600
humanity all the different races

504
00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:12,400
cultures religions political agendas

505
00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:14,160
you know good bad and different now

506
00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:16,400
expand that exponentially out into the

507
00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:17,200
universe

508
00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:19,039
and you know that'll kind of blow your

509
00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:22,000
brain so you know i would take each case

510
00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:23,280
you know individually

511
00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:25,440
there isn't a you know i don't have just

512
00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:27,679
one way of you know investigating you

513
00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:29,600
have to investigate the person

514
00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:31,360
you have to make emotional connections

515
00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:32,880
with people if you don't make true

516
00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:34,640
emotional connections they don't feel

517
00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:36,080
safe and they'll never give up the good

518
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:36,880
stuff which

519
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,600
i won't don't blame them you know so you

520
00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:41,200
have that kind of thing so

521
00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:43,600
you know i've had people that start off

522
00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:45,840
with terrifying events and then end up

523
00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:47,440
again in these huge transformative

524
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:49,200
events and think about it you know

525
00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:51,039
totally different when we were young we

526
00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:52,799
had to go to the doctor and get shots

527
00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:54,080
and a lot of us were screaming and

528
00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:56,559
yelling and didn't want to go do it

529
00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:58,559
and then of course too is tim you both

530
00:19:02,390 --> 00:19:00,480
know there are dark things out there

531
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:02,400
just like there are dark humans that are

532
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:03,120
evil

533
00:19:06,549 --> 00:19:05,280
they're dark things so you know even

534
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:06,559
with my team

535
00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:09,200
i say you know we make calls every day

536
00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:10,960
this is dangerous work sometimes i'm

537
00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:12,640
supposed to go out with a para military

538
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:13,039
group

539
00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:16,160
um a couple of weeks and i mean they're

540
00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:18,080
basically they're busy in washington now

541
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,559
so

542
00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:20,640
you might have to delay it well these

543
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:22,160
guys are still supposed to go but

544
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:23,840
they're a great team and you know i'm

545
00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:25,520
not like the normal girl i'm out there

546
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:27,280
shopping for snake boots because you

547
00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:28,720
know we're going to be out

548
00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:31,360
in the middle of nowhere and so in this

549
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:33,039
i'm sorry the second question

550
00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:36,080
um was uh fresh

551
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:39,280
oh yeah was going to talk about yeah um

552
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:42,400
one of my high profile cases that i talk

553
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:43,760
about in my book and

554
00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:45,039
there's some great case it's not just

555
00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:46,960
pushing my book but

556
00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:49,760
you know i'm a true researcher i would i

557
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:50,320
would

558
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,520
push it yeah well it's you know people

559
00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:55,280
said ange you got to write about what

560
00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:57,120
you're experiencing you know and

561
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:00,720
nobody knows and so i took a year to

562
00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:01,919
finally do that but

563
00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:04,000
one of my great cases that i just loved

564
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:05,840
is the strange case of witness

565
00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:10,080
jay and it's some extraordinary

566
00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,480
evidence in this witness jay came home

567
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:14,240
his father died

568
00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:16,559
very affluent family his mother a

569
00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:17,440
matriarch

570
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:19,840
she had a military contracting clearance

571
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,799
70 in her 70s carries like a 38 with her

572
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,080
everywhere she goes

573
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:26,640
could not be coerced did not believe in

574
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,000
any of this stuff

575
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:30,480
well he's out in his barn one evening he

576
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:32,000
came home to inventory they were going

577
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:33,360
to sell the place

578
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:36,080
and he said angie found a nest of baby

579
00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:37,840
birds he took his phone out he was going

580
00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:40,000
to video him just to show his mom in the

581
00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:41,440
morning over coffee

582
00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:43,280
he puts his phone back in his pocket

583
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,640
like he turns it off

584
00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:46,320
he always has his sidearm he's

585
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:47,679
ex-military he said

586
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:49,440
and all of a sudden it had the strangest

587
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,320
compulsion to go to the side door he

588
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:53,600
said he walks over to

589
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:57,360
um a big tool table he takes his sidearm

590
00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:58,480
out which he never

591
00:21:02,149 --> 00:21:00,400
goes anywhere that's the first strange

592
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:02,159
thing he takes the phone out sets it

593
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:03,120
upside down

594
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,880
on this tool table opens the door sees a

595
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,720
bright flash of white light

596
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:10,640
and the next thing he knows he wakes up

597
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:13,120
on his back 80 feet from the barn

598
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,960
well he knows nothing you know he

599
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:17,120
doesn't know how many much time is

600
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,480
left eventually he goes inside

601
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:22,480
he finds out from his mom he wakes her

602
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:24,720
up that three hours and 20 minutes has

603
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:25,919
elapsed

604
00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:29,440
and he has no idea what has happened

605
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:32,720
at all um you know he actually freaks

606
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:33,840
out a little bit

607
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:37,120
um it's a very complex story but

608
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:39,520
what is so wonderful about the evidence

609
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:40,799
mom being who she

610
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:42,640
is and such a professional she thinks

611
00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:44,559
he's been mugged so she has him take his

612
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:45,280
shirt off

613
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:47,600
and she starts taking pictures he's got

614
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:50,400
burn marks it looks like behind his ears

615
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:52,960
uh burnt this grid mark on his head

616
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,440
there are puncture marks under his arm

617
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:57,360
and she is she's trying to get him to

618
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:58,960
call the sheriff's department and he

619
00:22:02,870 --> 00:21:59,600
said no

620
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:02,880
i just you know he was so you know

621
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:05,039
just so confused at that moment you know

622
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:06,480
he refused

623
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,440
and but still mom's snapping away um you

624
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:11,280
know she finally gets him settled he's

625
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:12,559
craving salt

626
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:14,960
which we all know as researchers is a

627
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,039
common thing after missing time

628
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:20,080
um he eats something he goes to bed um

629
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:22,159
and before he goes to bed his mom says

630
00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:23,840
where's your sidearm where's your phone

631
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,840
he goes well it's still out in the the

632
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:27,200
barn i guess and

633
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,880
she goes well i'll get my gun i love

634
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,480
this and her little

635
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:33,120
night code and says i'll cover you so

636
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,320
they both walk back

637
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:37,440
out nothing going on they get the the

638
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:38,400
weapon and they

639
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,360
get his phone and the phone is dead

640
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:43,120
doesn't think anything about it

641
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,880
so he comes back in they're all

642
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,559
exhausted it's past 3

643
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:49,039
30 in the morning now with the timeline

644
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,240
they go to bed

645
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,799
well the next morning he's on the farm

646
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:54,720
he's helping mom so he gets up

647
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,440
you know goes out and plows all day or

648
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:59,200
bush hogs all day and he comes back in

649
00:23:02,390 --> 00:22:59,600
later

650
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:02,400
plugs the phone in and he realizes that

651
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:03,360
the phone

652
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,880
never was turned off guys it was video

653
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:08,799
and although it was turned upside down

654
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:11,600
and we didn't get the video it we

655
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:12,240
captured

656
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:14,960
two hours and 20 minutes of the the

657
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:17,760
craziest audio i've ever heard

658
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,640
and and some big evidence i mean it

659
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:22,080
sounds like non-human

660
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:25,440
voices on this audio and all right let

661
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,440
me let me hold you there because we have

662
00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:29,280
to go to our bottom of the hour break

663
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:30,559
we'll continue this

664
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:33,679
story with ufo girl on exploring the

665
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:34,400
bazaar

666
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:52,720
with two of the most electrifying

667
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:54,720
researchers in the paranormal

668
00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:58,000
your hosts timothy beckley and tim

669
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,390
welcome back to exploring the bazaar i'm

670
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:06,799
tim schwartz tonight our guest

671
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:09,679
is angelia shear she's the author of the

672
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:10,240
book

673
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:13,360
ufo encounters how strange events

674
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,480
transform human perception nigelia we

675
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:18,240
had to interrupt you uh to go to our

676
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:19,520
bottom of the hour break but you were

677
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:20,799
telling us the uh

678
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:23,679
story and i'd like you to finish it up

679
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,320
we

680
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:27,120
you stopped when you said that uh he

681
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:29,279
discovered that his telephone had been

682
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:29,600
uh

683
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:37,200
continue

684
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:39,520
absolutely um what was so interesting

685
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:40,799
and i'm going to tie it back into the

686
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:43,120
paranormal here with you guys but

687
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:45,600
um what was interesting as soon as uh

688
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,120
the witness sent a report

689
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:50,240
you know there's this moment when i call

690
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:50,799
it like

691
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,440
buyer's remorse a lot of true witnesses

692
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:55,520
they'll get the courage to make a report

693
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:56,480
and then

694
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:58,799
they just can't do it and they'll renege

695
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,000
you know and so i

696
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,480
knew that we had a chance of that with

697
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:04,240
this witness because it was so intense

698
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,720
so

699
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:07,440
i emailed him nothing i thought oh

700
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,799
please please please

701
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,880
and he came through he's unbelievable

702
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,559
he's actually gone on the radio with me

703
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:14,400
so anyway we got the team together we

704
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:16,960
went out there immediately

705
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:18,799
and we got there 10 30 in the morning

706
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,559
deployed all the equipment went around

707
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,679
the property

708
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:23,840
and just to make a long story short and

709
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:25,760
we can talk about it more in depth later

710
00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:26,559
but

711
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:29,200
the first time that we um went in the

712
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:30,480
office and he

713
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,600
shared the audio uh i'm a nurse and you

714
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:35,039
know i've been working with witnesses

715
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:35,360
too

716
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:37,840
and studying trauma um as soon as the

717
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:40,320
audio came on his pupils dilated his

718
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,279
neck flush

719
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:43,200
his hand started shaking he had an

720
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:44,400
immediate

721
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:47,679
traumatic response just to the audio

722
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:48,559
playing

723
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:51,120
so it really whatever happened to him

724
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,840
something

725
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,240
happened to him that was my first you

726
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:56,640
know moment that i knew something really

727
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:57,440
happened to this

728
00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:00,880
this man and after that just with how my

729
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,240
research goes

730
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:04,720
all excuse my language hell broke loose

731
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:05,360
for him

732
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,919
i mean um this family was well to do so

733
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:08,799
they were able to

734
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,840
uh purchase a high security system they

735
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:14,559
had things that would hit the house

736
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,400
i have a lecture that i do and i have

737
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,720
the video that you know he's a he's a

738
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,559
researcher with me if it wasn't for him

739
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:22,559
we wouldn't have caught it but

740
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:25,200
there's one uh clear video that we have

741
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:26,760
of a huge orb

742
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:29,520
self-illuminating pulsing not a dust

743
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:32,320
moat you know it was self-illuminated

744
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,919
that you know just flies through the

745
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:35,520
middle of their house and goes out

746
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:37,760
a window that kind of thing started

747
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,640
happening or

748
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,400
you know he said ange one night i just

749
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:42,880
had this feeling again to go outside

750
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,039
took his equipment and there's this ufo

751
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:47,200
that's just hovering over his house just

752
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:48,720
flashing away

753
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:51,679
and you know we captured the the video

754
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:52,320
of that

755
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:55,440
so these things um the high strange

756
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:57,600
events the paranormal events i think you

757
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,559
guys probably had that in my intro

758
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,080
my father taught me to be a good

759
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,559
scientist and when i was young

760
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:06,720
you know there was this purest attitude

761
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:08,559
that you need to just leave this

762
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:09,520
paranormal

763
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:12,799
um you know things evidence out and my

764
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:14,880
definition guys a paranormal is not a

765
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,200
ghost although it could include that

766
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:19,840
my definition of paranormal is just you

767
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,640
know events

768
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,960
our science doesn't have an explanation

769
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,000
for

770
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,720
so as you know i studied more and took

771
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,399
on more witnesses

772
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,559
what i came to see is that my witness is

773
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:32,960
that the highest percentage that had

774
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,600
ongoing events meaning they were having

775
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:37,360
i think tim you you mentioned your

776
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:39,039
sightings a lot of these witnesses would

777
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:41,039
have sightings periodically throughout

778
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,080
their life

779
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:44,240
what was also present was a high

780
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:46,960
incidence of these paranormal events

781
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:48,799
and then that led me to study at the

782
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:50,640
monroe institute you know study

783
00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,520
perception

784
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:53,360
and then you know study my witnesses

785
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:54,960
because it was

786
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:57,039
i have kind of an analogy if humans have

787
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:59,120
the possibility of perceiving channels

788
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:01,360
one through ten let's say this is a very

789
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,240
simplified

790
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,720
analogy most people are only perceiving

791
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:06,559
channels one through two

792
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:08,799
psychics and sensitive maybe one through

793
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,840
four or five

794
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,080
after that you train to perceive like

795
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,559
meditation you know different

796
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:16,240
techniques like we did at monroe with

797
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:17,600
technology

798
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:19,679
and it was almost like my witnesses you

799
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,279
know would be going along

800
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:23,679
one through three have a paranormal high

801
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,600
strange event ufo encounter

802
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:27,360
and then all of a sudden they were privy

803
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:28,799
to channels one through eight

804
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,000
and things were coming in and eventually

805
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,000
you know what i started to see is once

806
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:36,080
these channels are open you can't really

807
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:37,039
shut them down

808
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:40,240
not without a lot of effort so

809
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:43,679
it just led me on a great adventure

810
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:45,919
throughout my life not only making some

811
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:48,159
wonderful friends which i have people

812
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,279
all over the world

813
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:51,760
unbelievable people special people that

814
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:53,120
truly seem to

815
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:56,399
have some um interes they don't seem to

816
00:29:01,990 --> 00:28:58,080
they have an interesting life

817
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,000
have ongoing paranormal ufo events and

818
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,320
are truly transformed in in many ways

819
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:05,919
over these events

820
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:08,399
so now did you try um hypnotic

821
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,279
regression

822
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:11,039
on the the witness to see what may have

823
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:13,360
happened to him over those three hours

824
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:16,240
yes i did not do the regression on him

825
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,279
we were so

826
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:19,679
close at that point you know as far as

827
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,559
our families

828
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,799
i did find another therapist and she

829
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:24,320
came in we thought that would be

830
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:27,039
better at the time and he wanted me

831
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,080
there present

832
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:31,200
and we did do hypnosis um you know again

833
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,000
this is a

834
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:34,399
very involved case it's going on four

835
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:35,440
years now

836
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,240
and he did actually remember some other

837
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:40,000
things but it got so much for

838
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:43,440
him after about i don't know 40 minutes

839
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,360
he was re-experienced something actually

840
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:47,440
just came out of it it was too much for

841
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,320
him so

842
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:50,640
uh we will probably pursue that at some

843
00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:51,520
point but

844
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:53,520
you know again you know you have to let

845
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:55,120
the witness kind of integrate what's

846
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:56,080
happened to them

847
00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:59,120
in their own time so sure

848
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:01,760
all right well we have a question from

849
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:02,960
one of our listeners

850
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:06,399
uh this is from cosmonaut 57 and uh

851
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,440
cosmonaut 57 wants to know uh what uh

852
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:11,840
what's the strangest ufo or abduction

853
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:12,880
case that uh

854
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,399
that you've investigated well you know

855
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,399
i have i've probably interviewed three

856
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,159
thousand people at this point

857
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,799
but one that that i'm just you know so i

858
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:24,480
can choose from a lot of things but this

859
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:25,039
one was

860
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:26,880
i had never had anything happen to me

861
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:28,399
like this and guys i've seen a lot of

862
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,520
weird stuff i mean

863
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,679
my team have had ufos come down over our

864
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:33,440
head just like they in hover there like

865
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,640
they knew we were there

866
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,799
we saw we've seen entities out in the

867
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:38,960
woods real entities these weren't ghosts

868
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,520
they were

869
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:41,279
clear on our fleur cameras that kind of

870
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:43,840
thing but one of the things that i think

871
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:46,240
your listener would enjoy is i had a

872
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:46,880
young man

873
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:50,000
call me a few years ago in

874
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,159
or send a report and when he he was

875
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:53,760
praying in his late 20s but when he was

876
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:54,799
13 or

877
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:58,000
um 14 he had a sighting when he was

878
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,279
young on his farm

879
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,919
he was at his grandparents house and he

880
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:03,120
went by a window

881
00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:04,960
and there were these aliens looking in

882
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,159
the window i mean

883
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:08,559
very clear three of them it turned their

884
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:11,840
head he was almost frozen in fright

885
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,679
and this young man i was so taken even

886
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,600
though it was a historical case i was so

887
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:17,360
taken with his sincerity

888
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:20,240
and you know you just you know tim you

889
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:21,120
you at our

890
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,399
you know when we've been investigating

891
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,000
you just know when someone's telling you

892
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,559
the truth you know he was very sincere

893
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,559
and so i told him i said you know i'm so

894
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:30,240
taken with your sincerity and what

895
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,120
happened to you

896
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,440
um i'm going to bring a team down there

897
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:35,120
and we don't care if anything happens

898
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,240
we're going to bring the whole

899
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,399
shebang all the gear and we're just

900
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:40,000
going to have fun and talk to you about

901
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:41,919
your event so he said great so we go

902
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:43,840
over to the plate about a four-hour

903
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,200
drive

904
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,279
the whole day we sent out the drones we

905
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,679
did all of our topos you know we

906
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,919
looked at you know the property measured

907
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:53,200
you know electromagnetic

908
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,360
spectrum and the first strange thing

909
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:56,960
that we had happened

910
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:59,519
was we have a you know we have our field

911
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,519
meters that measure the fluctuation in

912
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,600
the electromagnetic fields but also i

913
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:05,120
picked up a little gadget that i like

914
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,640
it's a bug detector

915
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:08,799
and it truly is a bug detector we use it

916
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,360
to sweep the interior of witnesses homes

917
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:13,039
to see if their house is bugged it picks

918
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,080
up the three major

919
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,799
cellular bandwidths and so my

920
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,880
co-investigator my team spreads out you

921
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:20,559
know the military guy he asks his

922
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,440
questions

923
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:24,240
you know i do my communications and um

924
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,519
josh

925
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:27,360
cross my assistant state director he was

926
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:29,039
doing the equipment sweeps

927
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:32,799
so he had the bug detector in his pocket

928
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:35,279
and he just turned it on coordinated it

929
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:36,480
or you know

930
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,039
got it set and we weren't going to use

931
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:41,200
it till we went into the house and so as

932
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:42,640
he was doing his sweep

933
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,679
with the field meters he went he came by

934
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:48,000
a tree and the bug detector went off

935
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:51,279
and he was like what so three times we

936
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,399
recalibrated

937
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:54,559
and at about three and a half feet up

938
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:56,080
this tree it looked like the tree had

939
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:56,720
actually

940
00:33:01,590 --> 00:32:59,760
had been cut and healed the bug detector

941
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,600
went off so it means the tree was

942
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,720
producing some kind of

943
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:07,200
frequency in the cellular bandwidth we

944
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:10,000
found three trees that triangulated this

945
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:12,880
man's house that gave off a cellular

946
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:13,600
frequency

947
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,799
never seen that before freaked us out so

948
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:18,720
we just made a note about it it was

949
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:20,880
getting late by this time

950
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,679
it was probably about 11 45 we'd been

951
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:25,039
there all day we prayed a four and a

952
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:27,039
half hour drive home you know we take

953
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:28,080
our time

954
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,440
so josh comes you know i have to back up

955
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:33,360
the witness also reported i forgot this

956
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:34,000
part

957
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,000
that from a very young age age he

958
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,000
suffered from nosebleeds out of one

959
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:40,000
the right side of his nose which many of

960
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:41,360
my abduction cases

961
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,840
you know that's a very common element to

962
00:33:48,149 --> 00:33:45,679
their to their stories

963
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:48,159
is that they've had constant nosebleeds

964
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:49,120
so anyway

965
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,679
josh my assistant director i was in um

966
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:53,360
talking to the family thanking them for

967
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,039
letting us trap on their property all

968
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,200
day and josh comes running in he goes

969
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:59,039
angel i want to try and experiment with

970
00:34:01,430 --> 00:34:00,399
this witness he said he would do it and

971
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,440
i said well sure

972
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:02,799
what do you want to do and he said well

973
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,360
i want to take the bug detector

974
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:07,279
and cor and you know calibrate it and i

975
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:08,639
want to put it up to his face

976
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:10,960
on that side of his nose well we've

977
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,560
never done that that that piece of

978
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:14,320
equipment is not used to measure

979
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,359
any biologic entity but we thought well

980
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:19,520
trees like you know why not you know

981
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:20,639
we're here

982
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,879
so we go outside and tim and tim you've

983
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,000
got to imagine we're

984
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,879
standing on this driveway uh it's 11 30

985
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,960
at night there's a security light you

986
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:30,720
know in their driveway

987
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,599
um right above us it's on and so we

988
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:36,000
calibrate it we test this instrument on

989
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,839
we had about some of the family and

990
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:39,119
friends were around because you know a

991
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,960
lot of times when we say we're coming in

992
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,720
town people want to come over and watch

993
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,560
and we say well sure

994
00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:46,079
so we had a little group of people there

995
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:47,839
and we calibrated it tested on

996
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:50,480
ourselves nothing happened we put it up

997
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:52,079
to this young man's face and the thing

998
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:52,879
went off

999
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:56,159
i mean full blast we stopped we

1000
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:57,520
always do things in threes we

1001
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:00,480
recalibrated tested on us nothing put it

1002
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:02,160
back up to this young man again second

1003
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:02,640
time

1004
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,680
off the charts now here it comes i told

1005
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,119
him i said everybody get the video

1006
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:09,440
cameras we're gonna you know we're gonna

1007
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:12,800
document this so third time put it up to

1008
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,960
this young man's face and guys i kid you

1009
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:17,280
not his nose started pouring blood

1010
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:19,520
i mean it was bleeding so bad we had to

1011
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,560
stop

1012
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,400
his you know his family went in got

1013
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:24,720
towels and you know to stop this so

1014
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:26,079
whatever this

1015
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,920
you know our instrument did it seemed to

1016
00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:29,359
activate something

1017
00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:32,079
and soon as his nose started bleeding i

1018
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,440
swear to god now here comes the

1019
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:35,440
paranormal point that security light

1020
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:38,240
went completely out and the last thing

1021
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:40,960
you hear my witness say on the audio

1022
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,680
is well i guess they didn't like that

1023
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,359
look we've stored up stirred up a

1024
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,800
hornet's nest

1025
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,040
so i have to say that was one of the

1026
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:51,200
strangest things i've personally been

1027
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:53,520
present there's no way that instrument

1028
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:54,880
should have measured anything

1029
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:58,000
on his in his body and certainly not

1030
00:36:03,109 --> 00:35:59,920
trigger a nosebleed which it seemed to

1031
00:36:03,890 --> 00:36:03,119
do so that was pretty strange

1032
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:03,900
very strange

1033
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:07,359
[Laughter]

1034
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:10,320
you should have him go in some time to

1035
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:10,960
be

1036
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,550
might pull it clear out of his face just

1037
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:20,079
to see if there is something you know

1038
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:21,119
that can be uh

1039
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:25,760
seen in that uh that part of his sinus

1040
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:28,720
right well um he hasn't had any other

1041
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:30,560
experiences things have calmed down now

1042
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:31,520
one thing again

1043
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,440
we were talking about the strange things

1044
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:35,359
that plagued my life you know when i was

1045
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:36,800
a young researcher

1046
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:40,079
i swear my my mail was opened my phones

1047
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,160
were tapped you know i used to laugh and

1048
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:44,240
say if this is all just a bunch of

1049
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:48,000
you know fantasy why is that happening

1050
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,599
but a lot of it's true researchers we

1051
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:51,440
had that happen years ago

1052
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:54,240
and this young man after that event all

1053
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:55,280
of us started

1054
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:57,920
uh and again i'm not dramatic i'm very

1055
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,160
you know i'm actually very skeptical

1056
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,800
but after that event all of us received

1057
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:04,800
probably for about eight days very

1058
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,560
strange phone calls

1059
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,640
um you know i got i would never forget i

1060
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,079
had my briefcase and i was getting in

1061
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:12,160
the car one day and my phone went off

1062
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,800
and

1063
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:14,480
um i thought well i'll just call him

1064
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,760
back once i get in the car and get

1065
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:17,119
settled and i mean it wasn't

1066
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:18,960
a minute or two and i called back and it

1067
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,480
said this number is disconnected

1068
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,720
you know and you know so he got strange

1069
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:26,240
phone calls and one night he actually

1070
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,200
scared me a little

1071
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:29,359
um he called me my witnesses are you

1072
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:30,240
know very

1073
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:32,240
kind they don't bug me you know they're

1074
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:33,760
they're very credible people

1075
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:35,599
he called me late and he said andrew i'm

1076
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,800
a little freaked out i'm coming home

1077
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,560
from work and there's a black sedan

1078
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,240
that's been following me

1079
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,880
so i said will you go somewhere public i

1080
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,000
i don't care where you go

1081
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:47,040
if there's a police precinct you know

1082
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:49,119
a gas to anywhere there's other people

1083
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:51,200
and he didn't call me back for about

1084
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:52,720
half hour so i was a little bit worried

1085
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,640
but he got home fine and everything was

1086
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:56,400
fine so we did have some

1087
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,480
strange things that happened after that

1088
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:00,320
investigation

1089
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:04,480
which that aspect of of

1090
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:07,680
of our research has always kind of

1091
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:08,800
mystified me

1092
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:13,200
because if you think that

1093
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:16,640
you're being say like uh uh

1094
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:19,760
spied on by the government or the cia

1095
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:20,560
nsa

1096
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:24,000
or or what have you why would they

1097
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:27,760
do things like that that are so apparent

1098
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:29,119
that somebody is actually doing

1099
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:31,839
something being followed by a black car

1100
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:35,520
weird phone calls i mean that's

1101
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:38,800
that just asks for you to

1102
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:42,079
talk about it on shows like ours yeah

1103
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:44,560
well exactly and you know once it's

1104
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:45,440
old-timers

1105
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:46,800
you know like you guys all of us that

1106
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:48,880
have been doing this for a long time

1107
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,800
you know i'm sure they're you know just

1108
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,160
like the government's admitted they've

1109
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,160
been studying ufos all along

1110
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,119
well you know all this always can't over

1111
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:59,119
into the paranormal stuff i'm reminded

1112
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:00,000
of uh

1113
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,560
the mothman prophecies you know in john

1114
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,240
keele's work you know where

1115
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,720
inquiry cold and you know they had all

1116
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,839
those phone calls

1117
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:09,920
and you know you just get bizarre stuff

1118
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,040
happening and

1119
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,839
you know it it's funny i'm just used to

1120
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:15,839
it after all these years you know we all

1121
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,320
just you know stick together but it does

1122
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:20,240
happen it almost makes you feel like

1123
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,160
like what you said that there's more to

1124
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,240
it than just a human intervention

1125
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:25,920
you know there seems to always be these

1126
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:28,079
paranormal components

1127
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,160
almost other reality kind of components

1128
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,079
to some of these things

1129
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,040
exactly which which leads me to my next

1130
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:36,960
question

1131
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:40,560
when it comes to the witnesses and

1132
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:43,359
these especially these high strangeness

1133
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:44,720
events

1134
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:51,119
are centered on the witnesses especially

1135
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:52,800
the ones that seem to have

1136
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:56,160
repeat experiences all of their lives

1137
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:59,680
or do you think that um there could be

1138
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:00,720
something to do with

1139
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,359
with a location because we all know that

1140
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,520
there are various hot spots

1141
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:07,520
you know all over the planet and you

1142
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:09,200
know this person may have just been

1143
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:12,160
at the uh wrong place at the wrong time

1144
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,359
or the right place in the wrong

1145
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:15,520
at the right time exactly and and then

1146
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:16,960
the phenomena just

1147
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,800
as it's well known to do just attaches

1148
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:20,079
itself to them

1149
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:23,040
at that point and i would say all of the

1150
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,680
above

1151
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,920
and i'm not answering that easily of

1152
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:27,119
course we have found

1153
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,720
this location i'm supposed to be

1154
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,880
researching next weekend

1155
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,040
um is almost been described as a

1156
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,359
miniature uh skinwalker ranch

1157
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,440
i mean this team have captured multiple

1158
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:39,440
entities they had one member actually

1159
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,440
disappear in the front of all of them in

1160
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,359
a flash and reappear and he has no

1161
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:45,680
memory we'll just have to see about you

1162
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,880
know some of that we're going to

1163
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:48,880
hopefully capture some things so

1164
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,880
yeah i think there's places on the earth

1165
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:52,640
where definitively you know

1166
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,440
that we know that that uh for whatever

1167
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:57,680
reason either high magnetic fields

1168
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:00,800
or you know who knows there's things

1169
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,760
that happen

1170
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:04,560
and then the what you talked about with

1171
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,000
the witnesses um

1172
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,319
yeah i mean they're we have to remember

1173
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,400
the perceptual component

1174
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:12,720
they're forever changed most of them and

1175
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,440
again if you take the channel analogy

1176
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:17,440
they've gone from perceiving channels

1177
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:19,119
one through three now to one through

1178
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:20,000
eight

1179
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:22,160
and i think a lot of these things are

1180
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:24,240
around us all the time we're just

1181
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:27,520
mostly blind to it you know to some

1182
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:28,000
degree

1183
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,760
with a lot of witnesses and again that

1184
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:31,440
doesn't mean that things aren't hard and

1185
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:32,640
fast and real

1186
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,440
they are so we have a lot of you know

1187
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:36,800
different things kind of happening at

1188
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,720
one time

1189
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,800
yeah i had sent you uh today uh uh

1190
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:42,160
earlier i guess you'll be getting it in

1191
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:43,359
a week or so

1192
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:46,160
a copy of this book that i put together

1193
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:46,880
recently

1194
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:50,400
uh ufos deja vu over and over again as

1195
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:50,800
these

1196
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,440
hot spots that we've investigated

1197
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:54,960
everywhere from the uh

1198
00:42:02,790 --> 00:41:59,119
in sedona uh arizona to the saint louis

1199
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,800
valley in colorado in mexico uh

1200
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,800
they're popping up all over the place we

1201
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:06,319
are good friends with the

1202
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,240
paul eno who does his own podcast on

1203
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,440
sunday out of rhode island and he wrote

1204
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:15,119
recently for a book that tim schwartz

1205
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,160
did a incredible alien encounters about

1206
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:20,880
a spot in pennsylvania where they have

1207
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,480
been going for the last

1208
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,480
probably what tim about two years at

1209
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:25,680
least yes

1210
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:28,880
yeah yeah and um it includes includes

1211
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:30,240
all the strangeness that you could

1212
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,440
possibly find

1213
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:33,920
uh you know ufo uh encounters i think

1214
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,800
some even

1215
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:37,359
uh mysterious uh individuals showing up

1216
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:38,160
in

1217
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:42,160
bigfoot

1218
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:43,920
have you had any of the sightings of

1219
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:45,760
creatures in

1220
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:49,040
coordination with the ufos absolutely

1221
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,400
and you know i'm sure you guys are

1222
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:52,400
familiar with stan gordon's work up in

1223
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:53,520
pennsylvania

1224
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,480
i mean back in the 70s i did a lecture

1225
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:57,920
in some of his material i think there

1226
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:00,800
were 275 cases within a year

1227
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:03,040
of ufo sightings in conjunction with

1228
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:04,720
bigfoot sightings or what seemed to be

1229
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:06,319
some kind of cryptid

1230
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,560
um in the case that i spoke about with

1231
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:09,920
the missing time

1232
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:12,160
the you know already it's strange enough

1233
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:13,839
what happened to this individual and it

1234
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,160
was

1235
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:16,319
probably later on that he you know

1236
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:18,640
confided to me they live on a huge farm

1237
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,599
with woods and he said and i was on my

1238
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:23,040
four-wheeler taking the dog

1239
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,119
out one night and they were down on a

1240
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:27,440
path and he saw something and you know

1241
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:29,680
it's amazing people won't say

1242
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:31,040
bigfoot and i don't blame they're not

1243
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,560
going to say that you know they'll say i

1244
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,160
just saw this dark figure

1245
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:36,480
standing over in the woods um that kind

1246
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,280
of thing and

1247
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:39,359
you know it scares them to death most

1248
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:40,319
people um

1249
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:42,400
you know my latest thing is i've gotten

1250
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,160
into interviewing hunters

1251
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:46,079
i mean these are good old boys had a gun

1252
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:47,680
since they were four and don't believe

1253
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:48,560
in any of this

1254
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:51,520
and in my book one of the cases was orbs

1255
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,560
tim that

1256
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:54,560
actually followed these hunters you know

1257
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:55,680
back to their truck

1258
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:58,240
so um i really like those guys they're

1259
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,359
very dependable and

1260
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:01,920
they're not making a story up so yes

1261
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:02,400
from

1262
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:06,079
orbs cryptids um i mean anyone that does

1263
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:06,480
this

1264
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,640
draw an imaginary circle

1265
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,400
and it doesn't matter where you start

1266
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:14,640
investigating if you start with ufos you

1267
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,280
finally get

1268
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,520
paranormal and ghostly phenomena if you

1269
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:19,280
start with ghosts you get cryptids if

1270
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:20,400
you start with cryptids

1271
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:24,640
you get ufos so um you know this is

1272
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,400
a very strange um endeavor we've all

1273
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,920
taken on here and that's why the

1274
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:31,760
perceptual component i think

1275
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:34,800
offers a huge explanation uh to the

1276
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:35,520
variety of

1277
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:42,150
all right well unfortunately we are at

1278
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:42,640
about

1279
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,560
end of our show so

1280
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,720
uh angelia i'd like to give you the

1281
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,560
chance to let our audience know

1282
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,800
where they can find your book tell us

1283
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:53,760
the title again

1284
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:56,640
and do you have a website or any

1285
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,319
anyplace else online that

1286
00:45:01,349 --> 00:45:00,800
people can look you up absolutely you

1287
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:01,359
can just

1288
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:04,480
very easy it's angelia shearer.com is my

1289
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:07,920
website i'm on facebook at angelia shear

1290
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:10,400
and you can if you want a signed copy of

1291
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,640
my book you can just go to

1292
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:13,520
angeliasheer.com and make an order there

1293
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,200
and i'll be happy to sign it and send it

1294
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:17,760
to you or it's available on amazon

1295
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:20,640
and it's ufo encounters how high strange

1296
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:21,280
events

1297
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,720
transform human perception and i really

1298
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,720
thank you guys for asking me on tonight

1299
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,960
i really enjoy talking to you

1300
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,960
well we are going to have you back on at

1301
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:32,079
the end of the

1302
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,839
uh the summer and perhaps you can bring

1303
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,119
on that uh

1304
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,880
individual with the experience and maybe

1305
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:38,319
play part of the tape

1306
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:41,680
uh for us absolutely yeah absolutely

1307
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:45,760
absolutely and in fact i'm looking uh

1308
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:48,960
uh forward to reading your book and uh

1309
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:50,400
like i say i sent you a couple of things

1310
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:52,800
in the mail and let us continue our

1311
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:55,359
research together and don't forget our

1312
00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:55,920
youtube

1313
00:46:02,309 --> 00:45:59,839
ufo's

1314
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,319
secret of files we should be adding

1315
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:04,800
quite a few new programs

1316
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,359
up there shortly so tim

1317
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,200
i guess this concludes the program for

1318
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,280
this evening and we'll be back in a

1319
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:15,119
week's time

1320
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:18,319
yeah it uh uh uh absolutely fantastic

1321
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,040
uh having you uh on with us tonight

1322
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:23,040
angelia and i just uh i i need to

1323
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:24,400
comment tim before uh

1324
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:26,079
we run out of time here that you know

1325
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:27,680
tennessee it

1326
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,720
has been a hotbed of all kinds of

1327
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,480
bizarre activity i mean you know you've

1328
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,800
got ufos bigfoot and let's not forget uh

1329
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:35,920
one of our uh

1330
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,920
our favorite ghost stories uh the bell

1331
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,599
witch uh right there

1332
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,920
oh yeah bell witch project well you know

1333
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:43,680
i'm going to sneak back

1334
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:46,720
to that uh bar that we were in

1335
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:50,960
before and maybe maybe maybe the alien

1336
00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:51,440
has

1337
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:54,319
disappeared and i continue can continue

1338
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:54,800
my

1339
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:57,359
conversation with that very uh uh a

1340
00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:58,560
lovely uh lady

1341
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,240
that was hovering above the bar

1342
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:04,720
good night guys thank you so much thank

1343
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,670
you've been listening to exploring the

1344
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:18,960
bazaars

1345
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:21,680
with hosts timothy beckley and tim

1346
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:23,280
schwartz

1347
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,359
they're taking back the night by jetting

1348
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:27,680
non-stop across the cosmos

1349
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:29,839
in search of the truly bizarre and

1350
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:31,520
totally unexplained

1351
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,960
with you as their coal miners thursday

1352
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:36,240
nights at 7 pm

1353
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,559
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1354
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,200
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1355
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,079
information on exploring the bazaar

1356
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,240
and hosts timothy beckley and tim

1357
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:51,040
schwartz check out their kcor digital

1358
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:53,119
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1359
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:56,319
follow their youtube channel at mr

1360
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:00,160
ufo 1100 exploring

1361
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:18,829
[Music]

1362
00:48:18,839 --> 00:48:32,020
hmm